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Supercharger for 1.0 Ecoboost?

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#1 · (Edited by Moderator)
There were rumours Ford was going to produce a 170 bhp version of the 1.0 Ecoboost. What happened? There were also plans for a twin sequential turbo set up as well.

Would a turbo/supercharged 1.0 Ecoboost engine have better economy and lower emissions than the 1.6 160 bhp engine?
 
#4 · (Edited by Moderator)
I'd loved to know where you get your rumours and facts from. There isn't even a 1.6 160bhp engine in the Ford line up.
The European market version of the 1.6L provides 150 hp (112 kW; 152 PS) although a 160 hp (119 kW; 162 PS) version is used in the Ford Mondeo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_EcoBoost_engine
I did say "isn't", not wasn't, the 1.6 Ecoboost has been replaced by a 1.5 Ecoboost. Exact same power levels but lower emissions which makes the OP's statement pointless. The replacement for the current 1.5 is already in development.
 
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#6 · (Edited by Moderator)
I'd loved to know where you get your rumours and facts from. There isn't even a 1.6 160bhp engine in the Ford line up.
You can still buy in France an S Max or MK 4 Mondeo with the 1.6 Ecoboost 160 bhp.
 
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Would a turbo/supercharged 1.0 Ecoboost engine have better economy and lower emissions than the 1.6 160 bhp engine?
Usually, a supercharger worsens fuel economy, unless you do something pretty clever (for example, a variable speed drive to the supercharger). There can still be a case for it, if you can't fit a bigger engine (for example, if the bigger engine has more cylinders, or is pretty heavy, but the supercharger would normally add more weight than a bigger variant of the same engine).
 
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I'd loved to know where you get your rumours and facts from. There isn't even a 1.6 160bhp engine in the Ford line up.
You can still buy in France an S Max or MK 4 Mondeo with the 1.6 Ecoboost 160 bhp.
Old new stock. They are just vehicles already built. You were talking about a 170bhp 1.0 Ecoboost engine to replace a 1.6 which as it has already been replaced with a more economical and lower emission engine.
 
#10 · (Edited by Moderator)
Personally I'd love to see a 170 horse 1.0 3 cylinder fiesta.
Mind you what's in the ST as I'm not aufeit with the range.
Yes there wouldnt be any point with the ST having 180 BHP.

At the current maximum of 138 BHP i think they have taken the 1.0 in the Fiesta as close to the power of the ST as they dare.
 
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Personally I'd love to see a 170 horse 1.0 3 cylinder fiesta.
Mind you what's in the ST as I'm not aufeit with the range.
Yes there wouldnt be any point with the ST having 180 BHP.

At the current maximum of 138 BHP i think they have taken the 1.0 in the Fiesta as close to the power of the ST as they dare.
They have gone as far as 200bhp
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They have gone as far as 200bhp
Thanks for that Neil, but i am already aware of and seen that road legal racing car powered by a 205 PS 1.0 Ecoboost over 2 years ago. My point was simply about the current power output of the 1.0 Ecoboost fitted to the Fiesta in relation to the ST. :)
 
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They have gone as far as 200bhp
Thanks for that Neil, but i am already aware of and seen that road legal racing car powered by a 205 PS 1.0 Ecoboost over 2 years ago. My point was simply about the current power output of the 1.0 Ecoboost fitted to the Fiesta in relation to the ST. :)
I know :). They actually got 250PS out of it but in the interests of reliability and also stopping the back end of the Formula Ford stepping out, they backed it off. They still have concerns at reliability at 200PS and are unwilling to let the car loose on Top Gear.

The next generation of the 1.0 Ecoboost is in early stages of development. The bench mark is the same as the current engine, but with improved with economy and emissions. If a few of the changes work and pass the money mens approval, I reckon the 125PS engine could possibly be seeing about 10% more torque, not sure about PS levels though.
 
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