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#1 michaelronksley

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 07:13 AM

Hi All,

I have a problem with my 53 plate 130bhp diesel (152K on the clock)

I won't bore you all with the details of the problem but basically, sometimes it won't start and sometimes it cuts out - each time with the glowplug light flashing.

Fords have diagnosed the problem and found metal in the fuel therefore concluding the lining of the fuel pump is breaking up.

My confusion is that they have said that this can only have been caused by someone misfuelling the car with petrol at some point and that the only fix is an entire new fuel system at circa 3K.

I have owned the car for the past 2.5 years and driven it 42K with absolutely no problems at all and I know that I have never misfuelled it.

Would it really take this long for the problem to develop if the previous owner misfuelled it? and why can I not just replace the fuel pump?

Obviously I'm not going to pay the 3K for repairs but just wondered if there wasn't a cheaper way to sort it out as, apart from this, the car is in A1 condition.

I would appreciate any advice.

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#2 Mabok01

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 08:23 AM

If there are metal particles in the fuel then chances are they have blocked the injectors. The only way to ensure the system is cleared is to either replace it all or flush it all. And with flushing it there is no guarantee you will clear all the particles.

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#3 mondeo2674

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 10:29 AM

has the fuel filter been changed? then drain the old one into a bottle to see if there is much swarf in there?

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#4 salta

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 01:08 PM

Hi this is an acknoledeged fault in some of the 01 0nwards models of mondeo mark3 in which as far as i knew the actual diesel injector pump developed a fault which chewed up some internal metal seals and distrubited them through the fuel system causing it to have to be renewed ..for example if it was the lift pump which lost metal filings they would end up in the fuel filter and cause no harm but as i say the problem occured in the actual diesel injector pump so there being no filters between it and the injector rail or in the case of the D.Injection engine as i have had to deal with straight in to the injectors ...on the mondeo i had to deal with having the same provblem i had to renew the entire system pump injectors .and even the lines,the guys in the garage in yur case are blaming the fuel lift pump and doing so erroneously in my opinion as the problem occurs in the injector pump but how are you going to prove other wise but i would argue the case of for example how does the metal particles get past the filter to the other componets considering metal is heavier that fuel and they the garage that is want to renew all the components down stream from the fuel filter as well as the lift pump ...p.s if metal particlues were found in the system past the fuel filter then replacing the lift pump will not solve your problem it can only be solved the way they say by replacing all fuelling omponents.ie injectors lines and injector pump .lift pump ..flushing out the old line on the car from tank to fliter ..flushing out the tank ..fitting a new filter in other words a complete new fuel system ..the only other way to solve this that i can see is buy a doner and do a complete transplant as you are a second owner on the vehicle the warranty i think will be gone for you but it is an expensive problem and one i feel in view of the uproar toyota had to injure from their sticky accelerators that ford have sheirked away from as it is a fairly well known faust at ths stage.e

#5 danwfastford

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 09:54 PM

This would have nothing whatsoever to do with a misfuel - it is caused soley by substandard parts fitted to TDCIs. A fuel pump and filter may well fix it, but injectors may also be required. Stay away from Ford and their ridiculous prices, find a reputable Diesel specialist and see what they say.

#6 salta

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Posted 22 August 2010 - 10:06 AM

excuse but where in my post do i mention misfule .I am responding to the writer of the article ..If the main Ford dealer has diagnosed a problem surely they would know their own vehicles and have the proper equipment to test it.. the word misfule would cover a broad area and might even be relevant here but the point is the car has been diagnosed at a main Ford dealer and if you cant trust a main dealer to diagnose the vehicle their company owns the copy blueprint on then i recon you are not really going to trust anyone .I have found Ford dealers to be a little pricey but extreemly fair and honest and have always given a printout on thier diagnosis which they will stand by unlike other dealers which give you a word of mouth of flimsy report on the problem and having used adapted computer equipment which is not specifically designed for the model and make of the Ford vehicle being tested and afterwards there is no comeback so new parts will follow new parts until they get a fix .Ford give a price and fix the problem p.s I have had the exact same problem as rons . and i had to deael with it on an oi.di .2lt .last year which belonges to another party and after much twoing and frowing .i decided the best way to deal with it was with the ford dealer .It was resolved an yes cost a bit of cash .to renew injector pump..lines . and injectors .and flush the tank and lines to the filter and replace the filter wiht new ford .one but te car has never looked back and is still going perfectly eignteen months later .e




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