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#1 mclovin9091

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 09:58 PM

Hi all i've been trying to figure out whether i can do this or not but have left myself confused.

 

So, i ask for some help please!

 

I would like to Tow with my Mondeo 2.0TDCi estate, kerb weight 1575kg (middle to the two figures provided in haynes)

 

An ABI Award Sunstar 1995 model with Mass in Running Order of 1030kg with a Ford KA inside Kerb weight 1000kg 

 

Total trailer weight of 2030kg (as they stand)

Total train weight 3605kg

 

I have BE, CE, C1E and D1E so towing weight is not an issue as far as my license is concerned. I have done plenty of towing but always well within the limits.

 

Car can be moved forward or rearward to reduce the tow ball weight to no more than the 75kg allowable.

 

I believe the issues i have are:

 

I can only tow a maximum of 1800kg with the mondeo but 1530kg is the 85% value thats preferred.

The trailer needs strengthened where the car will rest due to having a 1300kg load limit 

 

The solutions are

 

Rip out the interior of the caravan to rid (Hopefully) 230kg minimum. Worst case strip shell off completely and just have a flat bed.

Attach metal planks front to rear where the wheels will rest

Attach suitable securing points for the ratchet straps to secure car.

 

Or am i massively wrong and this is a stupid idea?

 

TIA


Edited by mclovin9091, 22 February 2017 - 09:59 PM.

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#2 PURPLE_2L_LX

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 08:28 PM

No.

 

The caravan already weighs over 1000kg, Adding a 1000kg car will bring that

to 2000kg which will greatly exceed the caravans chassis strength and max laden

weight.

 

You wont be able to bring the caravans weight low enough to fix a car inside and stay

within the chassis max weight.

 

Your going to need to add quite a bit of weight to take the weight of a car.  Caravans

chassis's are lightweight and not that strong.  Noseweight ideally 7% of the trailers

gross weight. So your looking at 140kg noseweight also.

 

So added to your problems you mentioned the caravans gross weight is also a big problem.

 

The axle, wheels and suspension wont cope with a 2ton all up weight.

 

And dont think stripping the inside away will lighten it much either, its probable under 100kg

all in. The interiors are super light and add structural strength to the walls and roof.

 

Roof cupboards bond the walls and roof to make it a stronger box.


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#3 Gary Price

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 10:50 PM

As purple says you won't be able to modify the caravan chassis to carry the cars weight.

The caravan chassis is 1000kg unladen, I would expect its max loaded weight to be about 1200kg.

To carry the car your woud have to strip the caravan down then build a strong deck to carry yhte car, the result would have to be down to 200kg -

Mondeo can tow 1800kg max (but only with a driver and possibly one passenger, no luggage and 1/2 tank fuel).

I have used my Mondoe to tow my Bailey 1475kg, with 4 people on board, plenty of fuel and a boot full of luggage I'm very close to max train weight.



#4 TreborB

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 11:10 PM

I can understand you wanting to hide your KA (dam ugly bug) but why all the hassle of putting it in a caravan. Why not put it on a normal trailer with a sheet over it, lol

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#5 PURPLE_2L_LX

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Posted 27 February 2017 - 03:52 PM

Bought my daughter a KA and they are fun to drive, brought back the days of

being MINI mad.  Little gocart.

 

I did miss the mid range boost when pulling out onto a dual carriageway though.

 

If it snows im nicking it again  :)

 

 

PS your total trainweight figure is wrong. KA+caravan = 2030kg + the gross laden

weight of your car = 2200kg?  Your over 4 tons in weight.

 

Cars kerbweight is with a 75kg driver only. And it cannot pull 2000kg.

 

Seen it done with a motorbike garage, but they had to start off with a 2 ton twin axle

and cut 3ft off the back to give enough weight saving to allow it to carry a bike.

 

A caravan will usually have a payload rating of something like 150 - 300kg. Depending

on the model. Nowhere near enough to put a car inside.


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