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#1 blackestate

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Posted 19 December 2010 - 05:10 PM

Hi all.
I've just bought a 2004 Mondeo estate after a brief and very expensive flirt with an MG, prior to this we had a mk Mondeo ghia for 6 years.
Love the mk3 estate, it's much roomier, smoother & quieter than the old mk2 (and the MG), but one or two little things niggle me. The tailgate wont shut properly unless you give it a good slam, I dont like slamming it as it worries me that long term it could cause some damage, I've tried lubricating the catches & adjusting the lock & striker but it still wont latch down without a hard slam.
The other thing, also tailgate connected is the tailgate release button on the dash doesn't work, it opens ok with the button on the key and with the button on the handle but the button inside the car doesn't do anything.
Any advice would be gratefully received.
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:31 PM

Has no-one else had to slam their estate tailgate to make it close, or had their interior tailgate release button stop working?
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#3 jamiemcd

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Posted 21 December 2010 - 01:04 AM

Has no-one else had to slam their estate tailgate to make it close, or had their interior tailgate release button stop working?

Welcome to TalkFord! And there are usually more responses, I think everyone is just out de-icing their cars! (or acting and feeling smug as their windscreen clears itself while the neighbours scrape away...).

I can't really comment on the tailgate needing slammed as I've got a hatchback, but it sounds like you've maybe got a faulty latch.

Locking issues are a bit common on the Mk3 unfortunately, especially when it's cold. The driver's door lock mechanism has a habit of failing and not sending the correct signals to the rest of the car to do all of the locking and unlocking procedures. I've found that one of the first things to stop working in the cold months is the button on the dash to open the boot!

In your case though, the latch on the tailgate may be faulty, meaning the signal from the car isn't being acted upon. Maybe best to get that latch changed for a good one from a scrapper and see what happens?
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Posted 21 December 2010 - 08:05 AM

Hi.
Thankyou for the reply. I know what you mean about the heated screens, they're great. That's one thing we really missed when we had the MG.
Strangely I asked my friend who has a Focus estate about the tailgate release button on the dash not working and he said the same, his focus tailgate will only open with the button on the key when the temperatures get sub-zero, both the dash switch & the button on the handle stop working until the weather warms up!
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Posted 28 December 2010 - 07:44 PM

Now the tailgate wont open with the dash button or the tailgate handle button! The only way to release it is the button on the keyfob. Is the problem likely to be the microswitch in the tailgate handle or does it look like I have two seperate problems?
I've adjusted the lock & striker on the tailgate to try to enable me to close it without a hefty slam but it doesn't have enough adjustment available?
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Posted 28 December 2010 - 11:45 PM

Now the tailgate wont open with the dash button or the tailgate handle button! The only way to release it is the button on the keyfob. Is the problem likely to be the microswitch in the tailgate handle or does it look like I have two seperate problems?
I've adjusted the lock & striker on the tailgate to try to enable me to close it without a hefty slam but it doesn't have enough adjustment available?


ive a similar prob with my st220 the fob button or the button inside the car won,t work and i can,t get it to lock the tailgate
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#7 jamiemcd

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Posted 30 December 2010 - 08:37 PM

The problem with the locking does sound like the driver's door lock mechanism. At the moment the only way I can open the boot is to take the key out of the ignition and press the button on the fob to open the boot. Pressing the interior button or the button on the tailgate itself doesn't work. I plan to replace the driver's door lock mechanism soon though to hopefully sort that problem!

If I were you I'd look to change the tailgate lock first to sort out the actual closing issue, and if you still have the opening issue then replace the driver's door lock mechanism.
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Posted 06 January 2011 - 03:53 PM

Fitted a new switch in the tailgate handle today and the tailgate now opens from the handle and the dashboard button again as it should :) . Still have to slam the tailgate fairly hard to get it to close though, showed the local Ford garage and they said it was normal :unsure:
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Posted 06 January 2011 - 04:44 PM

My previous car was a mk2 hatch, I had to give that a hefty thunk to get it to latch properly, that is unless one of the other doors or a window was open then it didnt need any help to close properly its own weight was enough to latch it, several times id not realise a door was open and id slam it down and it wouldnt half bang!!!
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footwell lights front and rear, rear curtesy/map lights, auto dimming mirror.

Parrot ck3100 fitted. Front fog lights modded as coming home lights

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 09:20 PM

Hope this helps found it on another site Thanks to TINK at How to mend it.com.

My Car – Mondeo MkIII Estate

I had a problem similar to others where the boot lid would only consistently open using the key fob. Ocaisionally it would work with the dashboard button and the rubber pressure pad on the boot itself, but was very intermittent.

The solution to this problem is to take the rubber pressure switch out, and lubricate the microswitch held inside. This little switch gets stuck in the ‘pressed’ position and prevents the microswitch from resetting, thus you can’t open the boot unless you use the key fob. As the dash button and pressure switch are linked together, this also prevents you opening the boot with the dash button.

To do this fix undo two screws inside the handles of the boot trim. Prise the boot trim off in about 10 locations (It’s fairly stiff and feels as if your gonna snap the thing but keep trying) You can also remove the rear window trim for more space around the window area.

Undo four 10mm bolts which hold the fixing containing the number plate lights and boot release pressure switch onto the tailgate. This unit should then come away from the boot lid on the outside.

Follow the wire from the boot release pressure switch to the main wiring loom near the rear windscreen wiper assembly. Unclip the small connector (should be one black wire and one black/blue wire). Squish and remove the little rubber bush thing that holds that wire onto the boot lid and pull the wire through to the outside of the car.

Now release the boot switch by pressing the plastic clips in with a pair of plyers and push downwards. This should release the boot release pressure switch.

The boot release pressure switch is made of 3 parts. A rubber casing, a metal plate with springs and a plastic moulding with a switch in it. Remove both the rubber casing and the metal plate and if yours is like mine was, the when you push the little white end of the microswitch fully down, it gets stuck.

To fix this I applied a bit of lubricant (grease/oil/silicone grease) to the switch area and with a pair of tweasers pulled the switch in and out repeatedly for about 5 mins until the switch freed up.

Reassemble in the same order and hopefully like me, you’ll have a boot which works when you want it to.




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