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#1 bossko

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:10 PM

ive got a 55plate mondeo just done 78k for the past couple month it keeps cutting out and i get a glowplug light flashing just before it cuts out as soon as i start the car back up its fine the aa cant find a problem they say its cus it isnt serious so the ecu doesnt save the error code ive taken it to a garage and had injectors replaced and the cam shaft sensor.still got the problem now the garage are saying it just needs a ecu upgrade as the injectors can lose there memory but they said that the update as glitches in at the moment that ford are working on can anybody else show me any light please the car has been a dream to me for couple years but its getting annoying now keep cutting out for no reason

#2 PURPLE_2L_LX

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:39 PM

Cutting out with no fault codes could be, Dodgy cam/crank/flywheel sensor.


Normally a flashing glowplug will leave a fault code, But it may reset after so many engine restarts.


Avoid any garage that say the glowplugs are faulty. They are only needed to get it started and will usually start fine without them,
But will run a bit lumpy until warmed, Not recommended though.


If you have a laptop you can get an F-Super code reader off ebay, You can read and reset codes read live data and also
on a 55 plate car program your own injector codes.

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#3 stevegtuk

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:44 PM

Is it cutting out completely or going into limp mode. Mine used to go into limp and flashing glow plug, then when i turned it off and restarted it worked fine, It turned out to be the turbo actuator. The trouble was when i turned the ignition off and back on it reset the system in someway so the error didnt show up when i took it in t be checked. Only found it out what it waswhen i took it in with the glowplug still flashing.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:02 PM

hi at 1st u wouldnt even know it cut out untill u put ur foot down if u was at lights ect but lately u can be doing about 60 then it feels like it just stops then it it all of a suddenly kicks back in then the glowplug comes on then it just rolls to a stop then as soon as i turn it back on its fine the aa bloke said that because i keep restarting the car it wipes the error code because it isnt a major issue the ecu wont save it thats why the glowplug light doesnt come back on when i restart the car im getting told it just needs a ecu update but ford are having issues at the moment with the update but is this true

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:34 PM

hi at 1st u wouldnt even know it cut out untill u put ur foot down if u was at lights ect but lately u can be doing about 60 then it feels like it just stops then it it all of a suddenly kicks back in then the glowplug comes on then it just rolls to a stop then as soon as i turn it back on its fine the aa bloke said that because i keep restarting the car it wipes the error code because it isnt a major issue the ecu wont save it thats why the glowplug light doesnt come back on when i restart the car im getting told it just needs a ecu update but ford are having issues at the moment with the update but is this true


Whatever you do don't take it to ford. Find a good independant diesel specialist instead.

Ford will just replace all the expensive parts until they cure the problem or you give up. My local dealer outsources all their diesel problems to a local independant cause they haven't a clue apart from servicing.

What year is a 55 plate? invest £20-30 in an F-super for a laptop if you have access to one and read the codes yourself if you can then come back to us with info.

Many here will recommend you first change your fuel filter for a quality replacement <Ford/Bosch/Delphi and then go from there.

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#6 bossko

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:31 PM

would a fuel filter make that much diffrence for the engine to cut out ect when it starts up it does sound a lot diffrent sounds like a bag of nails now everytime i take it to the shop it always seems to be something diffrent that they try and replace its makeing me wonder like the comment above are they just hopeing they find the problem

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:39 PM

would a fuel filter make that much diffrence for the engine to cut out ect when it starts up it does sound a lot diffrent sounds like a bag of nails now everytime i take it to the shop it always seems to be something diffrent that they try and replace its makeing me wonder like the comment above are they just hopeing they find the problem


There is no guarantee a filter will cure it but it is a first step in narrowing down your problem. If the filter isn't allowing fuel to flow at a high enough rate the ecu will sense this and put the engine into limp mode or flash the glowplug light.

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 01:09 AM

id also check the starter motor for fillings . you have to take it out unfoutunatly . if the head of the starter motor is covered in filling s and when you put a flat bladed screwdriver on the teeth of the flywheel through the starter motor aperture [ place where it fits ..] and try to move the flywheel ..if you get more than an eight to a quarter inch play on the teeth backwards anf forwards then the flywheel is fubar . s




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