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#1 Danpage

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 05:58 PM

Im trying very hard to stay a fan of my 03 plate tdci but its costing me more money every week! Had the whole flywheel/clutch rattle problem sorted last month, Ouch! New brakes, EGR hose splits ETC ETC.

This week the engine cut out a few different times in different circumstances eg high speed low speed low temp high temp. the coil light flashes and engines looses power.
Turning the ignition off and on resets the problem and all is fine.
Im confident the problem is a sensor and not an injector (CONFIDENT MEANS HOPEING!!).

Phoned ford and ordered a Crankshaft position sensor and the bloke said they sold lots of cam sensors but not crank ones. is he confused?

Do i need a crank sensor or a cam sensor?

looked in Haynes and under diesel they only talk about crankshaft not cam.

Is there both? do i need both?

More to the point where the hell are they on the car?????

Haynes give a close up picture but I cant find it.


Please help im losing both money and hair>>


#2 rainbowcar

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 06:40 PM

both are the same item but it is usually the cam sensor that fails :L

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#3 jakobfriis

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 06:48 PM

I'd like to get a pointer to where this sensor is placed. I might even consider changing it myself :)

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 09:26 PM

Hope quoting "from outside" the forum is not conflicting with forum rules. Here it is: CMP/CKP
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#5 rainbowcar

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 09:31 PM

a member on here who no longer visits changed his cps 'as a precaution' and got a dodgy one, which cost him a fortune to fix cs he refused to believe it was the cps at first!! so i would say = 'if it aint broke...' yada yada yada
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#6 Danpage

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 10:47 PM

Thanks a lot for the info bud.

just been out in the car and the bugger totally cut out again. This time though it would not start and had got to the point of waiting for the AA to get to me.

Then the flaming thing started about twenty mins after i had called the aa havin given up.

Guy from AA said it wouldnt be the Cam sensor and was more likely the fuel pump.

I hope to god he is wrong. im gonna get a new sensor in the morning and give it a bash.

#7 pyeman1982

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 12:49 PM

Mine had exactly the same problemm same symptoms and changing the cam position sensor fixed it...

Less than £15 for the part and 5 mins to change it
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Posted 20 December 2007 - 07:35 PM

think if its this easy to change may well swop 1 out while the cars running fine and then will have a proven spare for £15, that way if it goes wrong then i know its not replacing 1 problem with another.

#9 MJR

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Posted 23 December 2007 - 01:40 PM

Mine had exactly same problem. Changed cam sensor (costing about £13.00 from Ford) which took all of 5 minutes to replace and had no problems since - that was a good 9 months ago.

Apparently Ford changed the cam sensor sometime ago as it was a common problem - Can't remember which way round this is but one was black and the other grey. Have a look at yours. Whichever colour it is you will need to ask for the other.

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#10 francoe

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Posted 08 January 2008 - 11:00 AM

If memory serves well the grey is the newer one.
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