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Big Megger
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Hi, there,

I got a much harder start when it's the first in a day. This morning about 10am I had to try four times to get it started. However, during the rest of the day, even when it's colder, like 7pm yesterday, it started much smoother. Does anyone have a clue about this problem? I've changed to NGK plugs three month ago. Will oil changing improve it? I think it's due soon. Also, the injectors might need service.

But why it's harder for the first start in a day?

Cheers :thankyousign:

David
 

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Window licking mong
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mine was pretty crap at starting even when i put in new glowplugs because the battery was fooked and undersized.
 

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just changed the glow plugs in my mate's TD and it starts first time now. Before it was taking 4-8 goes before it started. Used NGK's. :L
 

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Big Megger
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My question mainly is: why the first start is difficult? after that it's fine for the whole day even when colder at night.
 

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Window licking mong
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there will still be heat in the engine through the day, through the night is much colder for longer so it cools right down and is an arse to fire it up again
 

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i agree, change the battery make sure your alternator is working correctly.

the block on you car is cast iron, gets warm and stays warm for ages, but it will get very cold in the cold weather.

iv been driving escort vans with the n/a version for around 5 years, had over 20 different vans, poor starting from cold is normal always fixed by new glow plugs or new battery.

the battery only have a reconmended 5 year useage for the top grades and 3 years for the cheaper ones.
 

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Big Megger
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thanks, I'll wire a multimeter to the battery tomorrow morning to see the actual voltage when starting the engine.
 

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david_geng said:
My question mainly is: why the first start is difficult? after that it's fine for the whole day even when colder at night.
its a diesel!! they do tend to go like that i would check the red wire going to the glow plugs is intact and no splits and check your lower cable on the pump is moving if not its probably cold start solenoid under the battery.
 

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Big Megger
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Now I think it's due to both the coldness and the battery. The battery is a little weak. So it can not turn the engine quick enough to get the heat to ignite the diesel. The glow plugs are ok I think. They are hot enough to turn the diesel into smoke. So when the engine was cranking, there was a lot smoke. This morning, I turned on the plug five times before I started the engine, and it was a lot better. BTW, why this thing can not be done automatically? i.e. a controller can decide when to turn the plug light off and when to turn the plug off according to the engine temp. and the battery level.
 

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Hi David,

I experienced truly bad starts in the early morning. It improved by 'glowing' a few times. When started, it ran rough and smoked a lot (for a minute or so).

A week ago I replaced the (6 y/o) battery. It starts beautifully now, 1st time, no smoke. The starter motor now seems to run twice as fast.

I went and bought a new battery when the car wouldn't start after I had not used it for a couple of days (battery empty, needed recharge...).

So if your battery is old or low on power, replace it. I bought a Calcium Delphi 72Ahr for 60 euro's.

Good luck!

David
 

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Big Megger
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Since the weather is warmer recently, the car starts better now. I think I'll try to get a new battery before next winter.
 
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