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Little Megger
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Hello friends, I upgrade my Mondeo Tit X Okt.2008. From Sony6CD to Blaupunkt NX, I connected Blaupunkt NX with Bluetooth module with cable kit from Fiesta with FINIS code: [color:red]1429802[/color] [color:red]Jumper wiring[/color] , but now I not hear the phone call and dont hear me when I speak (I connected 2 pin mic Finis code 1532666 up to alarm sensor), and voice commands not work . What should I do? IDS configuration? another cable from navigation to Bluetooth module? or any change in the installation of the car / harness cable/.

sorry for my english !!!

thanks in advance !
 

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Big Megger
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The wiring for the microphone is different for the satnav.

The 2 drawings below,
1.show you where you need to cut the microphone wire
2. is how to wire it.

I am assuming that you are using a BT/VC phone interface only module (xxxx-19G488-xx), this has a mono output.

If you are using a BT/VC+USB module (8M5T-19C112-xx) you will need to modify the harness as this uses a stereo input (from AUX to module) and stereo output (module to satnav).
 

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Little Megger
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Thanks alot Arti, you are GREAT!!!

but i can't open this file, please send me this file to > [email protected]

my BT VC module is (xxxx-19G488-AK

BUT still I can't hear them. what is desicion for this problem? IDS configuration ???.

How this module may modifity for USB connect /new software for BTVC module/ or this is immposible ?
 

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Big Megger
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File sent. (upgrade of web site seems to have affected attached docs).

The 19G488 module does not support USB. Options are :-
1. new module 8M5T-19C112-xM (x is language) or later.
2. upgrade software in module (it's possible, but the instructions on how to are available, but not the location of the file/s).
 

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Little Megger
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Hi Artilleryman , we make harnes with mic but i cant hear them on pfonecall from speakers, they hear me, and voice comands dosent work.
what we must make ? IDS configuration or what ? Please help me ! Thenk U
 

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Big Megger
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The problem you have, is the connection between the BT module and the sat/nav.

What are the full Ford part nos. for the BT module and the sat/nav?
What firmware version is on the sat/nav?

Confirm you have fitted new indicator switch with (voice) push button on the end (and phone symble rocker switch) finis no. 1507180.

Using this :- http://fordwiki.co.uk/index.php/Quadlock_Stereo_Connector_-_Facelift_Mk3
This diagram is from the side where the wires enter the quadlock connecter.

Confirm
BT pin 1 connected to connecter B pin 1
BT pin 2 connected to connecter B pin 7.

If you still have the original Sony h/u re-connect it (MAKE NO CHANGES), try a phone call, what is the result?

NX sat/nav is high. Wiring diagram is DVD-nav upto 03/2008.

You need to get BT working before thinking about USB.

IDS is not necessary as it's all plug and it plays (on the Mondeo).

With the answers to the above, hopefully we can sort this out.
 

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Little Megger
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[quote name=The Artilleryman]The problem you have, is the connection between the BT module and the sat/nav.

What are the full Ford part nos. for the BT module and the sat/nav? [color:red]8M5T-19G488-AK[/color]
What firmware version is on the sat/nav? [color:red]I instal SP 5 , the car and donor car are Produced okt 2008[/color]

Confirm you have fitted new indicator switch with (voice) push button on the end (and phone symble rocker switch) finis no. 1507180 - [color:red]YES.[/color]

Using this :- http://fordwiki.co.uk/index.php/Quadlock_Stereo_Connector_-_Facelift_Mk3
This diagram is from the side where the wires enter the quadlock connecter.

Confirm
BT pin 1 connected to connecter B pin 1
BT pin 2 connected to connecter B pin 7.
[color:red]OK[/color]

If you still have the original Sony h/u re-connect it (MAKE NO CHANGES), try a phone call, what is the result? [color:red]I havent[/color]

NX sat/nav is high. Wiring diagram is DVD-nav upto 03/2008.

You need to get BT working before thinking about USB. [color:red]I want BT dosent problem is USB port[/color]

IDS is not necessary as it's all plug and it plays (on the Mondeo). [color:red]ok[/color]

With the answers to the above, hopefully we can sort this out. [color:eek:range][color:red]Thanks[/color][/color]

[/quote]
 

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Big Megger
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Looking at the fitment dates for the BT module, I wonder if this module only has a stereo output?

Use the existing wires

BT pin 1 to B pin 1
BT pin 2 to B pin 7.

move BT pin 1 wire to BT pin 5 (Left line out)
move BT pin 2 wire to BT pin 23 (Audio ground)

move Sat/nav B pin 1 to C pin 5 (remove existing wire, carefully)
move Sat/nav B pin 7 to C pin 6 (remove existing wire, carefully and connect to C pin 10 Audio ground THIS IS CORRECT 08/2008 Sat/nav).

This hopefully will give you phone and voice commands from left speaker.
 

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Big Megger
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Glad that worked.

Unfortunately you now have BT on the left speaker (only) and AUX socket feed on the right speaker (only).
To get BT and AUX socket in stereo you will need to undo this :-

move BT pin 1 wire to BT pin 5 (Left line out)move back to pin 1
move BT pin 2 wire to BT pin 23 (Audio ground)move back to pin 2

move Sat/nav B pin 1 to C pin 5 (remove existing wire, carefully)move back to B pin 1, reconnect existing wire
move Sat/nav B pin 7 to C pin 6 (remove existing wire, carefully and connect to C pin 10 Audio ground THIS IS CORRECT 08/2008 Sat/nav).move back to B pin 7 (leave C pin 10 as is)

And then modify the lead to the AUX socket as per dbeydade's diagram attached below.
Note. Ground Loop Isolater NOT REQUIRED.

Then it's finished.
 

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File sent. (upgrade of web site seems to have affected attached docs).

The 19G488 module does not support USB. Options are :-

1. new module 8M5T-19C112-xM (x is language) or later.

2. upgrade software in module (it's possible, but the instructions on how to are available, but not the location of the file/s).
Hi, ive got the file... but never tested it so I havent distributed it.. as I dont want to be held responsible if it goes wrong lol.

Also, hope this helps,

Eng. PN: 8M5T-19C112-AE
From: 25-02-2008 To: 10-04-2008 Bluetooth/VC + Info + Navigation, Voice Activated Module - British
From: 25-02-2008 To: 10-04-2008 Blue Tooth Interface Connect, Voice Activated Module - British
Replaces,
8M5T-19C112-AA
8M5T-19C112-AB
8M5T-19C112-AC


Eng. PN: 8M5T-19C112-AG
From: 10-04-2008 To: 09-06-2008 Bluetooth/VC + Info + Navigation, Voice Activated Module - British
From: 10-04-2008 To: 09-06-2008 Blue Tooth Interface Connect, Voice Activated Module - British
Replaces,
8M5T-19C112-AF

Eng. PN: 8M5T-19C112-AH
From: 09-06-2008 To: 29-09-2008 Bluetooth/VC + Info + Navigation, Voice Activated Module - British
From: 09-06-2008 To: 29-09-2008 Blue Tooth Interface Connect, Voice Activated Module - British

Eng. PN: 8M5T-19C112-AK
From: 29-09-2008 To: 02-03-2009 Bluetooth/VC + Info + Navigation, Voice Activated Module - British
From: 29-09-2008 To: 02-03-2009 Blue Tooth Interface Connect, Voice Activated Module - British
Replaces,
8M5T-19C112-AJ

Eng. PN: 8M5T-19C112-AL
From: 02-03-2009 To: 23-03-2009 BT/VC Phone Interface + USB Connect, Voice Activated Module - British
From: 02-03-2009 To: 23-03-2009 Bluetooth/VC + Info + Navigation, Voice Activated Module - British

Eng. PN: 8M5T-19C112-AM
Part Number, FINIS: 1583717
From: 23-03-2009 BT/VC Phone Interface + USB Connect, Voice Activated Module - British
From: 23-03-2009 Bluetooth/VC + Info + Navigation, Voice Activated Module - British

NONE OF THE BELOW MODULES ARE USB COMPATIBLE... ONLY BASIC MODULES FOR BVC ONLY, ALSO ONLY MONO OUTPUT

Eng. PN: 7M5T-19G488-AE
From: 03-12-2007 To: 25-02-2008 BT/VC Phone Interface Only, Voice Activated Module - British
Replaces,
4M5T-19G488-AA
4M5T-19G488-AB
4M5T-19G488-AC
4M5T-19G488-AD
4M5T-19G488-AE
7M5T-19G488-AD


Eng. PN: 8M5T-19G488-AE
From: 25-02-2008 To: 05-05-2008 BT/VC Phone Interface Only, Voice Activated Module - British
Replaces,
8M5T-19G488-AA
8M5T-19G488-AB
8M5T-19G488-AC


Eng. PN: 8M5T-19G488-AG
From: 05-05-2008 To: 23-06-2008 BT/VC Phone Interface Only, Voice Activated Module - British
Replaces,
8M5T-19G488-AF

Eng. PN: 8M5T-19G488-AH
From: 23-06-2008 To: 22-09-2008 BT/VC Phone Interface Only, Voice Activated Module - British

Eng. PN: 8M5T-19G488-AK

From: 22-09-2008 To: 02-03-2009 BT/VC Phone Interface Only, Voice Activated Module - British
Replaces,
8M5T-19G488-AJ

Eng. PN: 8M5T-19G488-AL
From: 02-03-2009 To: 24-03-2009 BT/VC Phone Interface Only, Voice Activated Module - British

Eng. PN: 8M5T-19G488-AM

Part Number, FINIS: 1583726
From: 24-03-2009 BT/VC Phone Interface Only, Voice Activated Module - British

NOTE:

* Newer modules replace older modules, therefore older modules are no longer available.
* Information is provided as reference to compare what features your current module supports, rather than a reflection on which modules are actually currently available, in order to decide whether a module replacement upgrade is required or not.Modules do not need to usually be configured by a dealer on IDS using a VCM.. usually plug and play
 

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Hi mates,
i have read the whole topic and i came to the conclusion that for the sat nav to work with my vehicle i need:

to redo the pin connections for the microphone, to have a new fascia (which may be the most difficult part) and buy an external antenna.
Is there something else?
Thanks
 

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Big Megger
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To fit the NX touch screen satnav I believe you will need a different support frame as well.
Microphone wiring mods - PM me with your e-mail address and I'll send you a copy of the diagrams for the mods.
 

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Big Megger
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My mondeo is produced in February 2008, it has sony 6cd + bluetooth and voice control with aux in(but no usb).
Do i need any additional cables?
If BT & VC was factory fitted, all you need to do is change this plug :-


Should be located on the bulkhead behind the glove box, yours should have 2 loops and needs to be changed for one with 4 loops - there are only 2 listed for pre 08/2008 Mondeo's. Job done.

USB is complicated by the need to modify the AUX socket wiring, also a new BT module is required - expensive.
 

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Sorry for the lot of questions. So if i buy this 8 pin mic i don't have to change pins?
In my dealership we checked the finis 1469532 and they weren't able to find it.

So if it looks like the one in photo can i just change the pins or?
Thanks for your patience mate
 

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Big Megger
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It's on the BT module page, the part picture is labeled 19A391B.

Yes you can modify your existing plug.

Your current plug is wired 1 to 5 and 2 to 6
satnav plug is wired
1 to 3
2 to 4
5 to 7
6 to 8
good luck.
 
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