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Big Megger
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Oh yeah.

Just got my Mk3 fitted with the powerflex rear bushes, christ, even if my existing bushes weren't just starting to go this would have been worth doing.

Now the only problem is I want the front end to feel as direct and planted as the back end without spending too much cash (i.e. less than 100 notes). As they don't do powerflex front bushes anyone got a suggestion, strut brace perhaps?

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strut brace makes a huge difference to the characteristics of the handling.

on my old escort i would say the strut brace made more of a difference than the koni adjustables i had fitted.
 

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Well i got powerflex subframe bushes i also got 20mm mk2 anti roll bar bushes they fit on the rear no probs i got mine lowered but not much only 30mm makes hell of a difference and gets rid of the roll, more comfortable, no problems at all even on the biggest of speed bumps and handles the road well! :)

Id like to change the front anti roll bar bushes to poly's too but unfortunately theyre not a standard shape :( the mk3 has already got a strut brace so to speak they are factory fitted to all mk3's, even though some people think it only resembles one.

your best bet is a set of lowering springs i think the least lowering you can get which is 30mm i think but not everyone likes lowering.

Mine were £107 get a price from a fast fit place theyre probably cost you more but they dont charge for fitting if they supply, if you bought them yourself and got elsewhere to fit them it would probably end up costing more overall.
 

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totalguy said:
the mk3 has already got a strut brace so to speak they are factory fitted to all mk3's, even though some people think it only resembles one.
Seriously? Where is it? I have been under the bonnet plenty and I can't see anything linking the suspension turrets together? Not saying you're wrong just wondering how they have done it is there something hidden going on?

Can't lower it, it's a Zetec-S and I have already (gently thank god so no damage) grounded the front spoiler three times since I have had the car, lots of high curbs around here :( Well that's my excuse :D

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why cant you whats different about zetec s apart from the bumpers? i scraped my standard bumpers but i know why that is, too much suspention travel :annoyed: but with it being a little lower now theres a lot less travel like when you go over a hump back bridge on std suspention the struts will expand a fair bit like when you jack the car up but when lowered it dosent do that the same as when u go down a hill and it dips then goes up the car dosent nose dive the same now its lowered, and also going over speed bumps is a lot less hastle now dosent feel like the front nose is going to wack the floor and it dosent feel like a 4x4 bouncing over the big ones if u go a bit quick. i seen a mk3 other day iwas waiting at lights and it was going the other way the amount of movement the wheels made was shocking as the suspention was flexing. bloody awfull design the mk3 suspention ive always said that but now mines much better all round. :D

the strut thing is right under the plastic paneling at top of bonnet you would need to remove the rubber strip to see it its loke a square bar.
 

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Big Megger
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Yep it's the bumpers which are different and that's the problem.

If I drop it another 30mm then I will be grounding the front all over the shop when I'm around town as a lot of the car parks etc I use have very high curbs and unless I want the ass of the car sticking out I have to put the nose quite a long way in.

OK I could reverse in every time but can't be bothered, plus it would cost more than I want to spend and would hurt the ride which is already a bit marginal for me on the 18"'s

I've thought about it but really lowering the car isn't for me. Thanks for the info about the strut brace though interesting they fitted one as standard.

Anyway having done more miles in the car I think I should have been a bit more patient, either I've got more used to it or the bushes have bedded in slightly, maybe a bit of both. Whatever, the car just feels brilliant now.

Next on the list: remap :D

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J
 

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i didnt want to lower my mk2 and i never did due to the fact of the kerbs round here and the speed bumps too but the mk2 does sit lower than the mk3 even on std suspention but i know the mk3 sits a fair bit higher and the body roll was awfull. I had the bushes done before the suspention it did make a difference but not much but once lowered it made the impact and i got what i wanted.

I know your saying about high kerbs and big speed bumps we have them here theres ones over 6" tall in our asda and when i used to go over them i used to go over at 10-11mph max if i went any faster id scrape the floor and i did. suprisingly i can go over these now at 15mph and the car dosent jump around like it did before it goes over no probs, not that i make a habbit of it it just seems to happen, you know u get used to something and u do it without realising lol. honestly theres less chance of grounding with 30mm lower than there is with std suspention thats for sure :)
 

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John_C said:
totalguy said:
the mk3 has already got a strut brace so to speak they are factory fitted to all mk3's, even though some people think it only resembles one.
Seriously? Where is it? I have been under the bonnet plenty and I can't see anything linking the suspension turrets together? Not saying you're wrong just wondering how they have done it is there something hidden going on?

Can't lower it, it's a Zetec-S and I have already (gently thank god so no damage) grounded the front spoiler three times since I have had the car, lots of high curbs around here :( Well that's my excuse :D

Cheers,
J
I did not see it for a few days after getting the car. Its big and black and covers your strut tops.
Its quite solid as well( I took it to bits lol)
Its even bolted to the wing as well as the strut tops.
 

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Big Megger
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Heh yeah I know the bits you mean I thought they were just plastic covers, usually with a brace it runs directly across between the two turrets.
 

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John_C said:
usually with a brace it runs directly across between the two turrets.
it does really
 

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Big Megger
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Now you're just being pedantic! Have I upset you by not wanting to lower my car? ;) ;)

Usually with a strut brace it will run directly between the top of the turrets and over the top of the engine so that's what I expected to see on the Mondy too. There, is that better? :D

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no you aint upset me mate its upto you end of the day its your car not mine you can take my advice and use it to your advantage or just stick it in the bin lol. I just wanted to give as much info as possible, like i try to do always when i do something and i believe its really benefited i think very thoroughly before ido anything different but notice my mods in my sig theyve al lbenefited me and my car in one way or another weather it be performance handling or styling. Im not a fan of lowering myself i wouldnt lower my last car it would have made things difficult and wouldnt have benefited the car at all, but because the suspention travel is quite long and imo too much on the mk3 and it sits quite high i thought i would give it a god but wouldnt go too far. infact yesterday in town theyve closed off carparks and you know at the end of a row of car parking spaces u get a bit of half oval shaped pavement? well everyone else was doing it so i just went up onto one of them which was easily 6" tall bigger than a average kerb anyway i wasnt woried nd no problems getting on and off it.

as far as strut brace goes it does run between the 2 but even on mk1/mk2 if you put a strut brace on them it dosent really go over the top of the engine.
 

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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Fair play, not really seen a strutbrace on a mondy before just going from my old S60 T5 and (ahem) Skoda Felecia.... :love: :love:
 
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