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Stuck between a rock and a hard place, and in need of some expert advice on wheels/alloys.

Walked out this morning to find my rear tyre sitting flat as a pancake on the kerb and a nail sticking out of the middle of the tread.
Bought the car with 60k miles in January so this is it's first tyre change with me as the owner.
Natural instinct to get it off and down the local garage for repair, but jacked up and with all the bolts removed it simple will not budge.
Hit the back of the tyre with a lump hammer and still no cigar.
I guess the rubber is absorbing the force of the hammer so maybe that wouldn't have much impact.

Obviously cant get the car or the tyre to a garage for specialist assessment, so I rang a mobile tyre fitter who said he could come out and fit me a new tyre, but he would hit the alloy with a rubber hammer until it comes off, and in his long career he has only known one occasion when the rubber-hammer method did not work.
He said he would keep hitting it until it comes free before putting some copper seal on and then remounting with the new tyre.

His copper seal fix may well serve as a solution for him to get his full fee on the tyre replacement, but I thought I'd ask the forum : Is this a safe fix for the car in the long-term? Or might it leave me needing to get checked in with a garage to get more intricate work done to make it safe long-term.
Also - would copper seal only fuse the wheel back on again and unable to remove it next time?

Any expert advice/comments would be very much appreciated.

Dean.
 

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Are you inflating the tyre and hitting it on the inner sidewall? Depending how fast the leak is you may
need to leave the pump running to keep the pressure up. You can increase the pressure quite a bit over
the normal pressure. Hitting the sidewall of tyre should have more impact then.

Another option if using a trolley jack is inflate the tyre and jack it as high as possible, with just one
wheelnut partially fitted you lower the jack as fast as possible. The rapid drop and the small amount
of play on the studs may cause it to break free.
 

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have car, will travel.
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Are you inflating the tyre and hitting it on the inner sidewall? Depending how fast the leak is you may
need to leave the pump running to keep the pressure up. You can increase the pressure quite a bit over
the normal pressure. Hitting the sidewall of tyre should have more impact then.

Another option if using a trolley jack is inflate the tyre and jack it as high as possible, with just one
wheelnut partially fitted you lower the jack as fast as possible. The rapid drop and the small amount
of play on the studs may cause it to break free.
Ah good idea! Sadly I'm confined to using the factory standard wind up jack. Takes several minutes to get the car up or down! 🙄
It's a good idea for the tyre fitter turning up tomorrow though - if his rubber hammer on the back of the alloy doesn't work.
Many thanks for the reply! 😊
 

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I have a similar experience with a bmw rear wheel. That damn thing was well on the hub. I removed all wheels but left 3 on loosely and dropped the jack but still no joy, even tried pushing the car sideways. In the end still with 3 wheel nuts loosely fitted I started the car and drove forward and backwards still to no avail so I held the revs and dropped the clutch and did a wheelspin on my driveway then I heard the clunk as it broke free.
 

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My advice would be fit wheel nuts loose, apply the Handbrake and try to drag it forward and back in 1st gear
 

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Had a similar experience with a rear wheel - AA man gave it a whack with a large hammer - came off after about 3 hits. Make sure that you clean the surfaces of wheel and disc and apply some suitable greese then refit wheel.
 

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had this just the other day
took me 3 days of messing about to get the wheel off
the powdercoat on the rim meant that it was just thick enough to go on but as the centre hub protrudes out of the wheel centre the surface corrosion on that meant it wouldn't come off
whacked it so many times with the hammer my arm was about to fall off
putting copper slip on the hub isn't an issue though, the centre bore located the wheel and the nuts tighten it to stop it rotating so as long as he's not slathered it on in gallons it should be ok for the future
 
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