Suspension Differences Between Models?

Spring load details can be found on etis, we have covered this before. If you look on etis it would maybe show up on a search on here?

• With Standard Suspension
• Front Spring Load Class-O
• Rear Spring Load Class-P

for my own car.

I've no idea what that means though

What do you want to achieve with the info? Are you looking to change the handling?

http://www.talkford.com/topic/189253-20-zetec-with-sport-pack-how-different-is-it/

As per the title, I'm interested in what the suspension differences actually are between the various specs.

e.g Is 'Sport' suspension stiffer/lower springs or is it also different dampers, arb's and geometry? Do the models in-between have different combinations of these?

The ETIS only mentions a spring code, although not a spring stiffness (e.g X Kg/mm)

In my view, my own car does have a very good combination of ride and handling for the various road types I encounter (good on rough back roads, twisting A-roads/mountain passes and flat-out down the autobahn on long European drives), but there's always potential for dialling-it-in a little. Maybe to shift the emphasis slightly towards cornering without losing out on the smooth, compliant ride.

An obvious starting point would be to use standard Ford parts.

I don't agree with the idea that overly-hard, low suspension is automatically "better".

Hello?

MC Bodge said:

Hello?

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To the best of my knowledge, there is the Titanium X Sport/ Energy Efficient model (not sure of the name) that have lowered sports suspension (30mm drop).

I own the Titanium X Sport and it is firm by normal family car standards but is no where near as firm as say, a Civic Type R.

I am looking to upgrade the suspension to make it more compliant around corners (less body roll).

Cheers.

I'm not keen on lowering the car as I want to retain the ground clearance.

If nobody knows what the other differences are, I'll have to try phoning a Ford dealer, but they'll probably know even less....

MC Bodge said:

Cheers.

I'm not keen on lowering the car as I want to retain the ground clearance.

If nobody knows what the other differences are, I'll have to try phoning a Ford dealer, but they'll probably know even less....

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I'm pretty sure its just the springs that are different on the Titanium X Sport/ Energy Efficient models - the shock absorbers and anti-roll bar are the same unfortunately. Ford offer a Eibach (springs) and Bilstein B8 shock absorber upgrade path but anti-roll bars are in short supply with the rear one being slightly less than ideal for the Titanium X Sport.

dbwinter said:

I'm pretty sure its just the springs that are different on the Titanium X Sport/ Energy Efficient models - the shock absorbers and anti-roll bar are the same unfortunately. Ford offer a Eibach (springs) and Bilstein B8 shock absorber upgrade path but anti-roll bars are in short supply with the rear one being slightly less than ideal for the Titanium X Sport.

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It would be Interesting if the dampers and ARBs on all Mondeos are all the same, but some springs are stiffer -Some of the setups would presumably less than ideal.

The old trick of 'piggy-backing'/doubling-up the arb might be an option.

If anybody's interested, I measured my rear arb and it was ~20.4mm at 3 points along the straight part.

what is this etis site mentioned on here and how do i go about using it

philtom1 said:

what is this etis site mentioned on here and how do i go about using it

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http://www.etis.ford.com/

click this and on the top tab where it says "vehicle", put your reg no in and look at the spec etc.

There is a drop down list that shows full features under "minor features"

Does a 59 plate 2.0 TDCI 140 EDGE Estate have different springs to an equivalent Zetec or Titanium/X?

ETIS says mine has:

• Front Spring Load Class-O
• Rear Spring Load Class-P

Cheers

http://www.talkford.com/topic/140849-suspension-set-up/

http://www.talkford.com/topic/189253-20-zetec-with-sport-pack-how-different-is-it/

Not entirely conclusive though...

I was mostly wondering if the "Zetec" had stiffer rear springs than the "Edge"

Edge is just trim, ford doesn't have endless config so I'd say there is only 2 maybe 3 spring variations to cover, low spec, sport and estate.

I suspect that may be the case, but don't know for sure.

Have no idea what it means but my standard 2.0tdi Zetec Hatchback on 16" wheels says

Front P

Rear F

so that's another few letters of the alphabet covered lol.

My 08 140tdci ghia

• Front Spring Load Class-P
• Rear Spring Load Class-F