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2.0L Duratec Management Light On

747 views 5 replies 3 participants last post by  Baldrick  
#1 ·
Hi,
I've looked through the forum pages and quite a few reasons for management light coming on, though about a year ago when car running rough, solved by fitting new coilpack/HT leads, never had the management light on.

Today's problem:
Management light on tonight, car running rough, think can hear some strange noises?
Earlier today, on a 5 mile trip, noticed my speedo no longer working, car maybe a little rough? But heavy rain at the time.
Parked up for 30 mins, speedo fine when went out again?
Wife drove car tonight for 5 miles, got back and mangement light on?

Car had a winter service 2000 miles ago, am in the RAC with homestart so will get him to plug in his diagnostics tool,

Would be useful if any forum members have any ideas before I get it diagnosed in the morning? (Mileage 126,000)

Many Thanks
Richard
 
#2 ·
RAC Homestart just left, diagnostics were "misfire on No.4 cylinder"
He checked spark plug, looks new from the service in October.
He checked compression, using cylinder 2 as a guide,
Cylinder 2 seemed lower than he expected, but cylinder 4 gave a good reading (looks to have twice as much compression as cylinder 2)
Management light now off, but his laptop connection playing up.
He then got a new coil pack out of the van, connected it up, and engine sounded a lot smoother, an even idle, so recommended I replace the coil pack.
Eurocarspares here I come....
 
#3 · (Edited by Moderator)
It might be worth taking into account that, this engine uses a 'wasted spark' system meaning that, the coil fires on cylinder number 1 and 4 simultaneously before then, firing on 2 and 3...again, simultaneously.
The point I'm making is, if you have an 'electrical' misfire on number 4 caused by a failing coil, you should really have a misfire on number 1 also as it uses the same coil in the coil pack and that's basically what the coil is on this engine....two coils in one pack.

There's a chance that something has failed internally between the coil and the output connector(where you plug the lead) but, there's also a chance that your misfire could be down to a faulty lead and not the coil. It might be worth mentioning this to your local motor factors.

Mart.
 
#4 ·
If you change the coil pack make sure you get an OE one, cheap ones are very hit and miss as many on here have found out.

Many have bought them from the link below and never had a problem with them, they are made by Visteon, who supply Ford, even my local Ford dealer now keeps these in there stores along side the boxed branded Ford ones.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item5636cac494
 
#5 ·
Thanks for the link, possibly unfortunately I bought a new one from Eurocarsparts on Saturday morning,
Description on invoice - ignition coil - Ford Fiesta M01J01 for ÂŁ33.38 (same part number as RAC engineer had in his van)

Once fitted, management light out and running fine
Sunday night, drove car again, misfire back and management light on again

I then changed the HT lead for cylinder 4, using one off an old set I had - management light out again, a bit better, but misfiring at low revs

I guess next step is new set of HT leads?
I am also now looking to by an OBD2 code reader, seen this one on ebay?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230644533100?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

I have an OP-COM OBD1 reader that connects to my laptop and gives a lot more than just codes, unfortunately this is only for Opel/Vauxhall, and bought it as our Corsa was too old for an OBD2 reader, but too new for the paperclip method.
Ideally I would like something like this instead of just a code reader, can anyone recommend one at a reasonable price?

Once again, thanks for the advice
 
#6 · (Edited by Moderator)
I know from first hand experience that the coil pack on mine, a 1.8 Duratec engine, is the same as on a 1.4 Ford Sigma engine (Zetec SE), so there's a good chance it's the same coil pack for a "Ford Fiesta M01J01", but don't quote me on that please. It could be the leads breaking down, how old are they, mileage on them?

Have a look at this as well: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2ebf092d42